(;GM[1]FF[4]SZ[19]AP[SmartGo:1.4]CA[UTF-8]
PW[Bashan]WR[14k]
PB[windom]BR[14k]
DT[2004-10-23]
PC[The Kiseido Go Server (KGS) at http\://kgs.kiseido.com/]
TM[1500.0]OT[1x20 byo-yomi]
KM[7.0]
RE[B+Time]
RU[NZ]
GC[windom [14k\]\: hi
windom [14k\]\: why is komi 7?
Bashan [14k\]\: i had to decline so many offers
windom [14k\]\: hehe
windom [14k\]\: \:)
Bashan [14k\]\: because NZ rules
Bashan [14k\]\: http\://senseis.xmp.net/?NZRules
Bashan [14k\]\: you can place handicap stones freely
Bashan [14k\]\: it's basically like chinese rules
windom [14k\]\: i see
windom [14k\]\: so every stone is also a point?
windom [14k\]\: okay i guess i understand later on \:)

Bashan [14k\]\: yes - at the end you need to fill dame
windom [14k\]\: hehe]
C[



]
;B[mp]CR[mp]BL[1468.6];W[pd]CR[pd]WL[1434.8];B[ek]CR[ek]BL[1454.3]
C[windom [14k\]\: ok another strange opening
grendel [9k?\]\: I won't comment on the opening
grendel [9k?\]\: I'm not qualified to
]
;W[dd]CR[dd]WL[1407.0];B[mc]CR[mc]BL[1429.4];W[jc]CR[jc]WL[1377.4];B[me]
CR[me]BL[1426.1];W[pf]CR[pf]WL[1372.8];B[ep]CR[ep]BL[1424.6];W[pp]CR[pp]
WL[1358.4];B[jj]CR[jj]BL[1421.0];W[kg]CR[kg]WL[1348.7];B[je]CR[je]BL[1419.1]
;W[ke]CR[ke]WL[1347.2];B[kd]CR[kd]BL[1417.7];W[hd]CR[hd]WL[1334.0];B[jd]
CR[jd]BL[1415.9];W[hf]CR[hf]WL[1327.4];B[ff]CR[ff]BL[1413.9];W[df]CR[df]
WL[1319.4];B[fd]CR[fd]BL[1412.2];W[fe]CR[fe]WL[1317.5]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: this can work to setup a connection underneath
];B[ee]
CR[ee]BL[1410.9]
(;W[ge]CR[ge]WL[1315.7]BM[1]
(;B[de]CR[de]BL[1409.9];W[ed]CR[ed]WL[1313.7];B[fc]CR[fc]BL[1405.2];W[ce]
CR[ce]WL[1310.5];B[ef]CR[ef]BL[1403.9];W[db]CR[db]WL[1291.7];B[cc]CR[cc]
BL[1401.6]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: do you two normally always make these raw peeps?
Bashan [14k\]\: which one
grendel [9k?\]\: this is a peep
windom [14k\]\: it´s called a misclick from me
windom [14k\]\: ;)
grendel [9k?\]\: it's called a "raw" peep, when there's no follow up move
grendel [9k?\]\: oh \:)
Bashan [14k\]\: i have been criticised for them , too
grendel [9k?\]\: I'll get to yours
]
;W[cd]CR[cd]WL[1284.9];B[cf]CR[cf]BL[1399.8];W[dg]CR[dg]WL[1282.4];B[cg]
CR[cg]BL[1398.1];W[eh]CR[eh]WL[1273.7];B[fh]CR[fh]BL[1396.4];W[ch]CR[ch]
WL[1267.4];B[bh]CR[bh]BL[1392.1];W[ci]CR[ci]WL[1255.2];B[bi]CR[bi]BL[1388.1]
(;W[bj]CR[bj]WL[1235.4]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: I was thinking this hane was too aggressive
grendel [9k?\]\: you don't actually have a lot of liberties in your group
Bashan [14k\]\: yes, i was speculating on some double threat
grendel [9k?\]\: because E13 will put you into bad shape
windom [14k\]\: no it means you get into bad shape... 
windom [14k\]\: ;)
Bashan [14k\]\: yes, it also secured the left border
]
BM[1]TR[eg]
(;B[cj]CR[cj]BL[1386.0]
(;W[bf]CR[bf]WL[1228.4];B[bg]CR[bg]BL[1384.2];W[bk]CR[bk]WL[1221.6];B[di]
CR[di]BL[1382.1];W[dh]CR[dh]WL[1207.3];B[ei]CR[ei]BL[1379.8]
C[Bashan [14k\]\: bummer, you are so good at that!
windom [14k\]\: thanks
Bashan [14k\]\: why do i always fall for his mean tricks?
grendel [9k?\]\: because of that weakness, if you wanted to keep those stones, you needed to extend more
windom [14k\]\: hehe
Bashan [14k\]\: when?
]
;W[gb]CR[gb]WL[1187.0];B[be]CR[be]BL[1376.2];W[bd]CR[bd]WL[1182.8];B[af]
CR[af]BL[1374.7];W[ad]CR[ad]WL[1172.2];B[ck]CR[ck]BL[1370.1]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: Bashan, these white stones are dead
grendel [9k?\]\: leave them be
grendel [9k?\]\: even if you do get them to live, black will build up enormous thickness
]
TR[bj:bk];W[cl]CR[cl]WL[1167.2];B[dl]CR[dl]BL[1368.0];W[ej]CR[ej]WL[1156.5]
;B[dj]CR[dj]BL[1359.8];W[hh]CR[hh]WL[1139.2];B[bl]CR[bl]BL[1357.3];W[co]
CR[co]WL[1134.4]
(;B[cm]CR[cm]BL[1353.5]
C[(black shouldn't have taken)
grendel [9k?\]\: but even assuming that black takes ...
]
;W[en]CR[en]WL[1130.5]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: ... you could now successfully invade the corner with ease instead

grendel [9k?\]\: ok, this was a bad play
grendel [9k?\]\: massive overplay
grendel [9k?\]\: splitting black does nothing for you
grendel [9k?\]\: and it doesn't threaten black
grendel [9k?\]\: his top group has eyes
Bashan [14k\]\: i see
grendel [9k?\]\: and you aren't in a position to attack his E4 stone
]
BM[2];B[cp]CR[cp]BL[1351.3]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: so he attacks your stone
Bashan [14k\]\: this is a good explanaion
grendel [9k?\]\: are you giving these up?
Bashan [14k\]\: i didn't want to 
Bashan [14k\]\: but he always forced me to
grendel [9k?\]\: then you need to do something right now to protect them
]
(;W[kq]CR[kq]WL[1112.4]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: a tenuki is inviting him to kill those stones
Bashan [14k\]\: ok, i thought i could still threaten him
Bashan [14k\]\: what's the word for that again?
Bashan [14k\]\: hybris
windom [14k\]\: hehe
grendel [9k?\]\: hubris?
Bashan [14k\]\: yes
grendel [9k?\]\: you may get some aji out of those stones later
grendel [9k?\]\: and if I recall, they did end up living
grendel [9k?\]\: but D5 is a severe attack on them

grendel [9k?\]\: as for this stone
grendel [9k?\]\: too low for an effective pincer
grendel [9k?\]\: it is too low to help with an attack against N4

]
;B[qn]CR[qn]BL[1344.8]TR[mp][kq]
(;W[qj]CR[qj]WL[1103.0]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: against the marked stone
grendel [9k?\]\: this tenuki isn't a good idea
grendel [9k?\]\: it's not really a pincer
grendel [9k?\]\: it's too far away for a pincer
Bashan [14k\]\: i just learned hat i should look for where the biggest profit is
Bashan [14k\]\: and i thought it was at the border
grendel [9k?\]\: it is
grendel [9k?\]\: but you have to consider life before profit
grendel [9k?\]\: urgent moves before big moves
Bashan [14k\]\: yes, correct
grendel [9k?\]\: especially against a player who constantly is attacking your stones
Bashan [14k\]\: but it was a good extension for my group, or?

]
TR[qn]BM[1]
(;B[lh]CR[lh]BL[1343.3];W[jf]CR[jf]WL[1096.1];B[hi]CR[hi]BL[1339.7];W[gh]
CR[gh]WL[1092.5];B[gi]CR[gi]BL[1337.1];W[lg]CR[lg]WL[1086.6];B[mg]CR[mg]
BL[1335.5];W[kh]CR[kh]WL[1082.5];B[ki]CR[ki]BL[1334.1]
(;W[mh]CR[mh]WL[1079.9];B[li]CR[li]BL[1332.7];W[mf]CR[mf]WL[1078.2];B[ng]
CR[ng]BL[1331.2];W[nf]CR[nf]WL[1076.7];B[le]CR[le]BL[1328.1];W[nh]CR[nh]
WL[1059.2];B[og]CR[og]BL[1325.6];W[ph]CR[ph]WL[1054.1];B[oh]CR[oh]BL[1318.3]
;W[mj]CR[mj]WL[1040.4];B[ni]CR[ni]BL[1314.6];W[mi]CR[mi]WL[1038.9];B[oi]
CR[oi]BL[1313.6];W[ok]CR[ok]WL[1030.2];B[of]CR[of]BL[1311.2];W[ne]CR[ne]
WL[1027.9];B[oe]CR[oe]BL[1310.0];W[nd]CR[nd]WL[1024.3];B[od]CR[od]BL[1308.9]
;W[nc]CR[nc]WL[1017.9];B[oc]CR[oc]BL[1307.6];W[nb]CR[nb]WL[1015.8];B[pe]
CR[pe]BL[1306.0];W[pc]CR[pc]WL[1005.7];B[qe]CR[qe]BL[1303.6];W[pb]CR[pb]
WL[1000.9];B[ob]CR[ob]BL[1301.8];W[oa]CR[oa]WL[986.4];B[lf]CR[lf]BL[1295.8]
;W[mb]CR[mb]WL[977.8];B[lc]CR[lc]BL[1293.3];W[lb]CR[lb]WL[972.6];B[kc]CR[kc]
BL[1289.9];W[kb]CR[kb]WL[966.9];B[jb]CR[jb]BL[1288.8];W[ic]CR[ic]WL[964.8]
;B[ib]CR[ib]BL[1287.3];W[if]CR[if]WL[948.3];B[na]CR[na]BL[1285.9];W[ma]CR[ma]
WL[944.2]
C[Bashan [14k\]\: n19 was dumb
grendel [9k?\]\: N19 was just as good as Q19
grendel [9k?\]\: though Q19 offres one less ko threat
Bashan [14k\]\: no, because i had to play q later
Bashan [14k\]\: exactly
]
BM[1];B[ka]CR[ka]BL[1278.5];W[rc]CR[rc]WL[921.2];B[pg]CR[pg]BL[1275.9];W[qh]
CR[qh]WL[915.5];B[qg]CR[qg]BL[1274.3];W[rh]CR[rh]WL[903.1];B[nj]CR[nj]BL[1272.5]
;W[mk]CR[mk]WL[889.8];B[nk]CR[nk]BL[1270.6];W[nl]CR[nl]WL[888.1];B[ml]CR[ml]
BL[1269.6];W[ll]CR[ll]WL[882.5];B[mm]CR[mm]BL[1267.4];W[kk]CR[kk]WL[876.3]
;B[kj]CR[kj]BL[1264.7];W[lk]CR[lk]WL[871.4];B[jl]CR[jl]BL[1262.9];W[jk]CR[jk]
WL[865.5];B[ik]CR[ik]BL[1261.4];W[ij]CR[ij]WL[840.8];B[ii]CR[ii]BL[1252.6]
;W[il]CR[il]WL[835.9];B[hk]CR[hk]BL[1251.0];W[jm]CR[jm]WL[832.3];B[im]CR[im]
BL[1245.0]
(;W[kl]CR[kl]WL[826.2]BM[1];B[md]CR[md]BL[1243.1]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: now, you made a big, big mistake here
grendel [9k?\]\: what does white have to do, right now?
]
(;W[pa]CR[pa]WL[814.2]BM[2];B[kf]CR[kf]BL[1239.1];W[ih]CR[ih]WL[782.9];B[hc]
CR[hc]BL[1235.8];W[gc]CR[gc]WL[766.4];B[id]CR[id]BL[1233.5];W[hb]CR[hb]WL[763.8]
;B[gd]CR[gd]BL[1220.8];W[ic]CR[ic]WL[758.3];B[fb]CR[fb]BL[1215.7]
(;W[fa]CR[fa]WL[740.4]BM[1];B[ea]CR[ea]BL[1212.0]
(;W[eb]CR[eb]WL[727.8];B[ga]CR[ga]BL[1210.5];W[ha]CR[ha]WL[723.5];B[ia]CR[ia]
BL[1196.5]
(;W[fa]CR[fa]WL[718.5]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: but playing the ko out, when you didn't need to wasn't good
]
BM[1];B[jn]CR[jn]BL[1194.0];W[in]CR[in]WL[672.7];B[ga]CR[ga]BL[1188.8];W[hc]
CR[hc]WL[651.1];B[hm]CR[hm]BL[1179.0];W[kn]CR[kn]WL[631.1];B[jo]CR[jo]BL[1177.5]
;W[ko]CR[ko]WL[618.9];B[hl]CR[hl]BL[1175.1];W[nm]CR[nm]WL[593.7];B[mn]CR[mn]
BL[1170.0];W[jp]CR[jp]WL[555.5];B[io]CR[io]BL[1166.6];W[ip]CR[ip]WL[543.2]
;B[ho]CR[ho]BL[1164.7];W[gq]CR[gq]WL[532.0];B[ol]CR[ol]BL[1163.0];W[pk]CR[pk]
WL[506.6];B[pl]CR[pl]BL[1143.9];W[on]CR[on]WL[490.3];B[oo]CR[oo]BL[1141.7]
(;W[pn]CR[pn]WL[484.3];B[po]CR[po]BL[1140.0];W[qm]CR[qm]WL[478.5];B[nn]CR[nn]
BL[1138.3];W[ql]CR[ql]WL[447.1];B[pj]CR[pj]BL[1128.9];W[pi]CR[pi]WL[436.4]
;B[oj]CR[oj]BL[1126.4];W[qk]CR[qk]WL[416.3];B[om]CR[om]BL[1123.6];W[qo]CR[qo]
WL[414.0];B[pm]CR[pm]BL[1122.2];W[rn]CR[rn]WL[411.8];B[pn]CR[pn]BL[1120.8]
;W[qp]CR[qp]WL[410.4]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: you got the better end of the deal this way
];B[op]CR[op]
BL[1119.7];W[oq]CR[oq]WL[388.9];B[gg]CR[gg]BL[1116.4];W[gf]CR[gf]WL[356.4]
;B[hg]CR[hg]BL[1112.7];W[ig]CR[ig]WL[333.9];B[fg]CR[fg]BL[1099.9]
(;W[fj]CR[fj]WL[328.9]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: this is another raw peep
Bashan [14k\]\: well, i jsut wanted to get out
Bashan [14k\]\: wasn't that a ko threat?
grendel [9k?\]\: not really
grendel [9k?\]\: where can you run to?
Bashan [14k\]\: you're right
Bashan [14k\]\: i think i had a lot of wishful thinking in this game
]
BM[1];B[jh]CR[jh]BL[1089.3]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: this is a sure capture of 3 stones
grendel [9k?\]\: ok, can white connect?
Bashan [14k\]\: no, bc snapback at j15
grendel [9k?\]\: right
grendel [9k?\]\: so, you need to capture the F17 stones, right?
Bashan [14k\]\: yes
grendel [9k?\]\: what's the best way to do that?
Bashan [14k\]\: e17?
grendel [9k?\]\: right
Bashan [14k\]\: you're right
grendel [9k?\]\: not the ko
Bashan [14k\]\: i feel so dumb
Bashan [14k\]\: well, it was a fast game
grendel [9k?\]\: yes
grendel [9k?\]\: and you had very little time left
grendel [9k?\]\: and as I noticed with Ersatz888, you need your time to think
Bashan [14k\]\: yes, i often think too slow


]
;W[fa]CR[fa]WL[294.3]BM[1];B[km]CR[km]BL[1079.7];W[lm]CR[lm]WL[283.0];B[ga]
CR[ga]BL[1070.2];W[fi]CR[fi]WL[250.5];B[eg]CR[eg]BL[1063.2];W[fa]CR[fa]WL[249.3]
;B[jg]CR[jg]BL[1060.5];W[ec]CR[ec]WL[244.6];B[gj]CR[gj]BL[1057.8];W[gn]CR[gn]
WL[227.6]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: this isn't a raw peep
grendel [9k?\]\: but it's not good
Bashan [14k\]\: its a bloody peep
]
BM[1]TR[de][ek]
(;B[hn]CR[hn]BL[1056.0];W[fo]CR[fo]WL[211.9];B[gp]CR[gp]BL[1054.4];W[fp]
CR[fp]WL[210.3];B[fq]CR[fq]BL[1052.0];W[eq]CR[eq]WL[207.4];B[fr]CR[fr]BL[1050.5]
;W[gr]CR[gr]WL[199.8];B[er]CR[er]BL[1047.9];W[dq]CR[dq]WL[197.8];B[hq]CR[hq]
BL[1041.8];W[hr]CR[hr]WL[188.6];B[dr]CR[dr]BL[1037.2];W[cq]CR[cq]WL[183.4]
;B[go]CR[go]BL[1030.0]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: you also missed a good move here, Bashan
(I didn't really miss it. I wasn't sure if i could live without an extra move.)]
(;W[dp]CR[dp]WL[164.3]BM[1];B[iq]CR[iq]BL[1020.0];W[ir]CR[ir]WL[155.1];B[jr]
CR[jr]BL[1014.4];W[jq]CR[jq]WL[151.5];B[hp]CR[hp]BL[1012.5];W[kr]CR[kr]WL[145.7]
;B[cr]CR[cr]BL[1009.3];W[br]CR[br]WL[128.5];B[bp]CR[bp]BL[1005.0];W[bq]CR[bq]
WL[121.3];B[bo]CR[bo]BL[1003.3];W[cn]CR[cn]WL[106.8];B[bn]CR[bn]BL[1001.7]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: now, G6 is another move that doesn't do you any good
grendel [9k?\]\: how many eyes do you have?
Bashan [14k\]\: one
grendel [9k?\]\: there is a move you can play that will guarantee you a second eye
grendel [9k?\]\: where is it?
Bashan [14k\]\: e5
Bashan [14k\]\: no
grendel [9k?\]\: it looks like it
grendel [9k?\]\: but it isn't
Bashan [14k\]\: e7
Bashan [14k\]\: just guessing
Bashan [14k\]\: oh, forgot the corner!
]
TR[em][eo]
(;W[fn]CR[fn]WL[75.5];B[dn]CR[dn]BL[978.0];W[do]CR[do]WL[63.5];B[qd]CR[qd]
BL[971.7];W[rd]CR[rd]WL[56.6];B[qc]CR[qc]BL[970.2];W[qb]CR[qb]WL[51.9];B[re]
CR[re]BL[968.5];W[ra]CR[ra]WL[26.8];B[jc]CR[jc]BL[966.2];W[mr]CR[mr]WL[20.0]
;B[qr]CR[qr]BL[957.8];W[rq]CR[rq]WL[20.0];B[rr]CR[rr]BL[955.7];W[pr]CR[pr]
WL[20.0];B[nq]CR[nq]BL[954.5];W[nr]CR[nr]WL[20.0];B[mq]CR[mq]BL[953.0];W[lq]
CR[lq]WL[20.0];B[lp]CR[lp]BL[951.6]
(;W[lo]CR[lo]WL[20.0]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: I know what you were thinking this move did
grendel [9k?\]\: but look at it again
grendel [9k?\]\: Can black play L4?
Bashan [14k\]\: he has one liberty too many
grendel [9k?\]\: right
Bashan [14k\]\: so we were both helping each other
Bashan [14k\]\: \:-)

(Actually, on rereading, I'm not sure if I understand this. Why would it make a big difference ("a big win for black")?)]
(;B[mo]CR[mo]BL[945.6];W[kp]CR[kp]WL[20.0];B[ln]CR[ln]BL[944.0]
C[(time out)
windom [14k\]\: wow
windom [14k\]\: b+4
windom [14k\]\: very even!
Bashan [14k\]\: well, i have to learn to think faster

Bashan [14k\]\: so this is a good practice for me to not fall for your guillotine

windom [14k\]\: any comments from you how watched?
grendel [9k?\]\: it was an odd game
windom [14k\]\: yes i see
windom [14k\]\: i agree. very odd
grendel [9k?\]\: I noticed some tactical mistakes
Bashan [14k\]\: yes, it always is with him
windom [14k\]\: hehe ;)
grendel [9k?\]\: want to go over them?
windom [14k\]\: i am the absurdist
windom [14k\]\: yup
windom [14k\]\: give him control 

----

grendel [9k?\]\: try playing untimed games
grendel [9k?\]\: or 45 minute games
Bashan [14k\]\: yes, that's a good idea
grendel [9k?\]\: speed will come with experience
grendel [9k?\]\: though, doing a lot of tsumego can help with that
grendel [9k?\]\: ladder practice too
Bashan [14k\]\: i am not good at the procedural things
grendel [9k?\]\: what do you mean?
Bashan [14k\]\: i'm still at problem 70 in Beginners exercises
Bashan [14k\]\: i mean\: counting out moves
Bashan [14k\]\: i mostly play by shape
grendel [9k?\]\: that's where doing tsumego really helps
grendel [9k?\]\: if you do it properly, and read out each move before guessing the answer
grendel [9k?\]\: you will gain a lot of experience with reading
grendel [9k?\]\: the same with learning how to read out ladders
Bashan [14k\]\: do you think it through, or just quicly learn them?
Bashan [14k\]\: i mean,when you do tsumego
Bashan [14k\]\: i spend like half an hour on one problem
grendel [9k?\]\: it depends on the problem set
grendel [9k?\]\: there is a problem set on gobase.org
grendel [9k?\]\: that I memorize
grendel [9k?\]\: because it's all basic shape
Bashan [14k\]\: good idea
Bashan [14k\]\: i have an account thre, too
grendel [9k?\]\: most of the time I don't guess, I read it out
grendel [9k?\]\: of course, I still make mistakes \:)
grendel [9k?\]\: but I read it out
Bashan [14k\]\: or else you 'd be kami no itte
grendel [9k?\]\: no
grendel [9k?\]\: I wish, but no
Bashan [14k\]\: i mean, if you didn't make mistakes
Bashan [14k\]\: i used to have a pocket pc and did tsumego with it
grendel [9k?\]\: just because you don't make mistakes in tsumego means that you don't know how to play the entire board
Bashan [14k\]\: no, it just means you should go to the next book
Bashan [14k\]\: \:-)
grendel [9k?\]\: I mainly work with the problems in Many Faces of Go
]
)
(;B[kp]CR[kp];W[mo]CR[mo];B[np]CR[np]))
(;W[kp]CR[kp]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: yeah, black should have cut
Bashan [14k\]\: m6
grendel [9k?\]\: then it would have been a definate win for black
Bashan [14k\]\: and then n5
]
))
(;W[bs]CR[bs]
C[Bashan [14k\]\: b1!
grendel [9k?\]\: right
grendel [9k?\]\: your group is now completely settled, and you have two eyes
]
))
(;W[hp]CR[hp]
(;B[iq]CR[iq];W[jq]CR[jq];B[ir]CR[ir];W[jr]CR[jr])
(;B[cr]CR[cr];W[bq]CR[bq];B[br]CR[br];W[ar]CR[ar];B[bp]CR[bp];W[dp]CR[dp]
;B[bo]CR[bo];W[cn]CR[cn]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: no difference on the left, though
Bashan [14k\]\: yes
]
)
(;B[dp];W[bp];B[cr];W[bq];B[bo];W[do];B[br];W[eo];B[dp];W[bn];B[cn];W[ao]
;B[bm];W[ar];B[gs];W[hs];B[iq];W[js];B[jr];W[kr];B[ir];W[fs]
(;B[lp];W[kp])
(;B[es];W[jq];B[gs];W[is];B[fs];W[as];B[bs];W[aq]TR[co]))))
(;B[go]CR[go]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: this is how black should have responded
Bashan [14k\]\: yeah, nice connection
(with the treat to cut at F6 later)]
))
(;W[ji]CR[ji])
(;W[lj]CR[lj]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: that's obviously a ko threat
]))
(;W[po]CR[po];B[pn]CR[pn];W[no]CR[no];B[op]CR[op];W[np]CR[np];B[oq]CR[oq]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: no, this doesn't work
];W[nn]CR[nn];B[nq]CR[nq]
(;W[mq]CR[mq];B[lq]CR[lq];W[mr]CR[mr];B[mo]CR[mo])
(;W[mo]CR[mo];B[lo]CR[lo])))
(;W[hc]CR[hc]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: you can also just go ahead and connect here
];B[jc]CR[jc]
;W[he]CR[he]
C[Bashan [14k\]\: yeah, that's good
]))
(;W[ga]CR[ga];B[eb]CR[eb]
(;W[ec]CR[ec]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: this also works
Bashan [14k\]\: yes, or even d19
grendel [9k?\]\: d19 has more ko threats
(QQQ\: How so?)]
)
(;W[da])))
(;W[eb]CR[eb]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: here, the clamp is the move you need
grendel [9k?\]\: not F19
Bashan [14k\]\: it's a bamboo, too
]
;B[fa]CR[fa]
(;W[ea]CR[ea]
(;B[ga]CR[ga];W[ha]CR[ha])
(;B[ha]CR[ha]))
(;W[ga]CR[ga];B[ia]CR[ia];W[ea]CR[ea];B[ha]CR[ha];W[ec]CR[ec]
C[Bashan [14k\]\: oh, that's the kind of thing i've been waiting for!
grendel [9k?\]\: much simpler
Bashan [14k\]\: ok, another thing to remember\: bamboo and clamp
]
)))
(;W[kf]CR[kf]
C[Bashan [14k\]\: but of course!
grendel [9k?\]\: L14 is super urgent
grendel [9k?\]\: I would't have played N16 except as a huge ko threat
Bashan [14k\]\: it's so obvious!
]
;B[id]CR[id];W[hc]CR[hc];B[ja]CR[ja];W[pa]CR[pa];B[la]CR[la];W[na]CR[na]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: black dies

Bashan [14k\]\: yes, i remember the remorse
Bashan [14k\]\: whenever i looked at the black group
Bashan [14k\]\: why do i forget this so soon?
Bashan [14k\]\: That explains why I noticed that N19 was a bad move. I remembered that i was angry about when i felt i had to play q19
grendel [9k?\]\: right - L14 was the move you needed
grendel [9k?\]\: you needed Q19 if black played K19
Bashan [14k\]\: wait, didn't i have to play q19
Bashan [14k\]\: ?
grendel [9k?\]\: you didn't have to until black K19
grendel [9k?\]\: because black can't atari you until black playes K19
Bashan [14k\]\: yeah, right
grendel [9k?\]\: here, the clamp is the move you need
grendel [9k?\]\: not F19



]
))
(;W[hl]CR[hl]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: white will end up with a better position from here
grendel [9k?\]\: hmm...
grendel [9k?\]\: though
grendel [9k?\]\: it's still a fight
]
;B[km]CR[km];W[kl]CR[kl];B[jn]CR[jn];W[jl]CR[jl]))
(;W[ie]CR[ie]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: to be honest I would have done this
grendel [9k?\]\: your center group is pretty settled here
grendel [9k?\]\: so you can now play big points if he pushes more

Bashan [14k\]\: i did that move eventually
Bashan [14k\]\: or maybe not
]
))
(;B[qq]CR[qq]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: but what if black does this?
Bashan [14k\]\: then i still can walk from the border group into the center
Bashan [14k\]\: and threaten to link up with q4
grendel [9k?\]\: you can
grendel [9k?\]\: and black will push on you from the N4 stone
grendel [9k?\]\: then pincer L3
Bashan [14k\]\: yeah
grendel [9k?\]\: and black will take a huge profit
grendel [9k?\]\: can you see that, or should we play it out?
Bashan [14k\]\: i can
Bashan [14k\]\: thanks
]
TR[mp][pp][kq]))
(;W[nq]CR[nq];B[mq]CR[mq];W[on]CR[on]
(;B[pk]CR[pk]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: white can still get out into the center
Bashan [14k\]\: i see
]
;W[hq]CR[hq]
C[Bashan [14k\]\: that was the idea
grendel [9k?\]\: well, it won't necessarily work like that
(back up to other variation)]
)
(;B[rp]CR[rp];W[qq]CR[qq];B[rq]CR[rq];W[rr]CR[rr];B[qp]CR[qp];W[pr]CR[pr]
;B[iq]CR[iq]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: because black can do this
Bashan [14k\]\: yea, i never know how to get sente
]
))
(;W[oo]CR[oo]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: at the very least, white needs to get into the center
]
))
(;W[kp]CR[kp]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: this is better
Bashan [14k\]\: i thought it could help me get shape
windom [14k\]\: Er ist ziemlich gut. Stimmen Sie Bashan überein? 
Bashan [14k\]\: ja!
grendel [9k?\]\: thank you
windom [14k\]\: hehe
windom [14k\]\: you know german?
grendel [9k?\]\: babelfish is a wonderful thing \:)
windom [14k\]\: aha
Bashan [14k\]\: \:-))


grendel [9k?\]\: from here
grendel [9k?\]\: if black does a double kakari ...
]
;B[qn]CR[qn]TR[pd][pf][cp][ep]
C[windom [14k\]\: kakari?
windom [14k\]\: what´s that
grendel [9k?\]\: a shimari is a corner enclosure
windom [14k\]\: ok
grendel [9k?\]\: the marked stones are one type of shimari
grendel [9k?\]\: a kakari is a move that prevents a corner enclosure, such as this. 
]
;W[nq]CR[nq]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: against the kakari white can settle him self easily
grendel [9k?\]\: in a lead up to attacking Q6
]
(;B[mq]CR[mq]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: why does black need to play this?
Bashan [14k\]\: to make life hard for you
]
)
(;B[mn]CR[mn];W[lq]CR[lq]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: white is now connected
windom [14k\]\: i see

]
(;B[on]CR[on])
(;B[mq]CR[mq];W[mr]CR[mr];B[np]CR[np];W[oq]CR[oq];B[op]CR[op];W[qj]CR[qj]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: this may be an acceptable result for black
grendel [9k?\]\: central influence vs territory
grendel [9k?\]\: but white settles easily and grabs a big point
]
)))
(;W[do]))
(;B[cq]CR[cq];W[cm]CR[cm];B[bm]CR[bm];W[bn]CR[bn];B[ak]CR[ak]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: this is still acceptable for black
Bashan [14k\]\: ok
]
))
(;W[bk]CR[bk];B[di]CR[di];W[dh]CR[dh];B[ei]CR[ei]))
(;B[eg]CR[eg];W[dh]CR[dh];B[cj]CR[cj]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: you have 6 stones here
Bashan [14k\]\: yes, big loss
grendel [9k?\]\: at most, this formation can have 11 liberties
grendel [9k?\]\: in this situation, you only have 2
windom [14k\]\: true
grendel [9k?\]\: windom's way was even better than this
]
))
(;W[cj]CR[cj]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: here
grendel [9k?\]\: one more stone at the very least
windom [14k\]\: i thought you would do that
Bashan [14k\]\: ok
grendel [9k?\]\: actually, I'm not sure if 1 stone is enough
Bashan [14k\]\: yes, i only saw the splinner in his eye
]
;B[bj]CR[bj]
(;W[bk]CR[bk]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: but white is still in a bind here
])
(;W[fi]CR[fi]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: this is probably what I would do
Bashan [14k\]\: yeah and if he tenukis (whch he rarely does) f13
grendel [9k?\]\: he won't tenuki from here
grendel [9k?\]\: I guarantee that \:)
grendel [9k?\]\: but he can't cut at E11 because of F13
]
TR[fg];B[gh]CR[gh]
C[windom [14k\]\: G12
windom [14k\]\: what would you do now as white?
grendel [9k?\]\: tough call
grendel [9k?\]\: I'd probably push on you
]
(;W[gi]CR[gi]
C[Bashan [14k\]\: that's better
windom [14k\]\: then i play c9
];B[ck]CR[ck]
;W[hh]CR[hh]
C[windom [14k\]\: cut 
windom [14k\]\: e11
];B[ei]CR[ei]
(;W[ej]CR[ej]
(;B[eg]CR[eg];W[dh]CR[dh]
C[grendel [9k?\]\: right?
Bashan [14k\]\: uh oh
windom [14k\]\: where did e10 came from?
grendel [9k?\]\: oh, very nice
windom [14k\]\: whatever. i playD10
]
;B[dj]CR[dj]
C[windom [14k\]\: dead
windom [14k\]\: hehe
Bashan [14k\]\: it's magic
windom [14k\]\: thanks
grendel [9k?\]\: yeah, very nice


]
)
(;B[fj];W[dj]
C[windom [14k\]\: no no]))
(;W[dj];B[ej];W[dk];B[di];W[cl];B[bk];W[dl]
C[QQQ\: this would have been a possibility, right?]))
(;W[ei]))))
(;B[ed]CR[ed];W[ef]CR[ef]
C[Bashan [14k\]\: that invited him to cut

];B[de]CR[de];W[ce]CR[ce];B[cd]
CR[cd];W[dc]CR[dc];B[cc]CR[cc];W[ec]CR[ec];B[fc]CR[fc]))
(;W[ed]CR[ed];B[ge]CR[ge];W[fc]CR[fc]
C[Bashan [14k\]\: but my connection worked too, didn't it?
----
grendel [9k?\]\: do you two see how white is connected?
Bashan [14k\]\: I see now - connection vs cut
Bashan [14k\]\: ok, i'll remember it
Bashan [14k\]\: ok, remember to play solidly ok, remember to play solidly ok, remember to play solidly ok, remember to play solidly ok, remember to play solidly ok, remember to play solidly ok, remember to play solidly ok, remember to play solidly 
]
))